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07.05.2020
Still all reports about the pool tragedy on the 24.12.2019 are absolutly nonsense, not regarding the clear and obvious reason of the tragedy:  Electric current in the water, enough for paralysing the muscles, but not enough to be seen in a autopsy, there the only result is: drowning.
The last thing we heard about the case is this

In green color I marked the important informations to understand the case. Theseinformations we had since day one.
Then came the wrong interpretations by experts who did not understand the case.
One of them is Allen Wilson.

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/01/03/residents-in-spain-agree-swimming-pool-expert-should-should-be-flown-in-to-examine-where-family-of-three-drowned/#.XleynJMzbyI

He strongly believes that someone on duty at the pool at the time may have turned off skimmer overflows that essentially causes an overpowering suction vacuum – pulling things towards it and making it almost impossible to escape from, as backed up by family statements and witness accounts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10659181/family-drowned-costa-del-sol-pool-died-human-error-expert-claims/

“The pressure of suction and current becomes enormous and when it starts dragging water in the pool towards it there is often no escape unless the pump is turned off manually.”
“Swimming away from the current becomes very, very difficult if not impossible once it gets you in its grips.”

This is definitely wrong, from a pump in a pool there is NO such watercurrent that influences a swimmer or someone walking in the pool. What Wilson said, was like a lie, this is definitely not true.
There is a vacuum when you get near and block the drain like this

But there is NOT such a water current through the pool that could have caught the victims and dragged them from the side to the middle.  NO NO NO
THIS IS STUPID NONSENS by Allen Wilson and his followers.
Wilson is an expert for building safe waterparks, but not for reconstruction of an accident like this .
On Wilsons own website he is showing the right thing in the following picture, where it shows a danger zone for divers around the drain
 

 
So the picture from the firm MSI about a diver directly near the drain, shown on the own website of Allen Wilson is CORRECT.
But not what Wilson tells the media about a swimmer, this is BULLSHIT

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10659181/family-drowned-costa-del-sol-pool-died-human-error-expert-claims/

“The pressure of suction and current becomes enormous and when it starts dragging water in the pool towards it there is often no escape unless the pump is turned off manually.”
“Swimming away from the current becomes very, very difficult if not impossible once it gets you in its grips.”

 
This is BULLSHIT
And its easy to PROOF this.
Its about this pool.

The girl entered the pool by the steps. Then soon the mother saw something that seemed to her as if the girl was dragged to the middle.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&ei=JxXeXsXXIsv9kwXw8Bo&q=%22something+was+wrong+with+the+pool+that+must+have+made+swimming+difficult+for+them+at+that+point+in+time%22

“something was wrong with the pool that must have made swimming difficult for them at that point in time”.

This was simply the slope of the pool that “dragged” , in addition to the fact that she could not resist because she was paralysed by electric current.
Now I proof, that what Wilson tells the media about the pressure of suction to a swimmer is BULLSHIT and that the only explanation for the accident is electric current.
 
Here you see that the pool is around 15 m long and around 10 m wide.
In the middle the pool is 2 m deep.

The following calculation is generous in such a way that all values are increased in such a way that ultimately a greater suction would come out, i.e. first more water volume of the basin, resulting in a stronger pump. If there is no relevant pull with these values used, then certainly not in reality.
When  we calculate the whole pool with a depth of 2 m  we  get a much larger volume and are on the safe side of the calculation, even if the Pool would be 2m wider than 10 m,   so we calculate the volume of the pool with  15 m x 10 m x 2 m = 300 m3
This helps in the further calculation to get a quick overview even without calculator.
The dimension of a pump is calculated  like this:

To get a easy calculation without calculator, lets use a very short circulation time of only 3,3 h,  3 hours and 20 minutes
So in 3,3  h the whole pool with 300 m3 would be excanged one time. This means 1 h  there will be 90 m3 excanged, or 90.000 liter.
So for one second this means 90,000 liter / 3600 seconds  =  25,00 liter/sec
 
Now we need the continuity equation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_equation

 
Now think to A2 as to be the area of the pipes of the pump: For examples if the pipes would have an area of 100 cm2 the “piece of water” that runs throught the pipe in one second would be 250 cm long, because 100 cm2 x 250 cm = 25000 cm3   = 25 liter
But now remember this red  hemisphere

First me must calculate now the area of this hemisphere

 
Lets look to a distance of 2 m around the drain, because the water is 2 m deep, so we know how the situation is directly above the drain.
So lets look at a hemisphere of 2 m radius.
This means 2 π r2 =2 π (2m)2 =  25 m2
So the area of the  hemisphere would be 25 m2
And now we have to look, how “high” the water would be, if you distribute 25 Liter on an area of 25 m2  ,  h”how high” would it cover this area, or how long is the distance that you have to multiply  a  area of 25 m with,  that you get a Volume of 25 liter?
25  liter = 25.000 cm3 = 25.000.000 mm3
25 m2 = 25.000.000 mm2
25.000.000 mm3 /  25.000.000 mm= 1 mm
This means: In the distance of 2 m around the drain, the water flows with a speed of 1 mm per second in the direction of the drain. In 10 seconds only 1 cm
But even a 9 year old girl can swim faster that 1 m per second.
A child can swimm a thousand times faster than the suction of the water would cause the water to flow in a distance of 2 m around the drain.
Only directly above the drain, may be less than a meter or 50 cm, the suction gets more and more dangerous, exactly how Wilsons own websits shows it in the picture of the red dangeous area around the drain, danger for a DIVER, not for a swimmer.
And in addition to this:
The mother saw the girl as she would beeing dragged, much before she was near the drain.
So more far away from the drain, the influence of the suction get even less important, not 1 mm in a second, but may be  only  1 cm in a minute
This is showing, how ridicoulous is what Wilson was fantasizing

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10659181/family-drowned-costa-del-sol-pool-died-human-error-expert-claims/

“The pressure of suction and current becomes enormous and when it starts dragging water in the pool towards it there is often no escape unless the pump is turned off manually.”
“Swimming away from the current becomes very, very difficult if not impossible once it gets you in its grips.”

Here I showed it in detailt, but every real expert with a clear mind can see and say at first appearance, that there is no relevant influence to a swimmer even if the whole capacity of such a poolpump works on the bottom of the pool.
Because there is so much scope in the calculation, for example when little children can swimm a thousand times faster than the calculated current that would appear, that  there is so much scope for also a child, that can not swimm very good.  Therefore the result is clear:
By far, by very very very far, there is no relevant suction to a swimmer by a poolpump.
And because its so by very very very far, its ridiculous what was published  and believed by the public. Even common sense would have been enough to detect the nonsense Wilson was telleing to the world.

Wilson wanted to help the family by dramatising what he thought was the real reason, but because he did not realize that electric current was the reason, he was dramatising against common sense.

Wilson was not an expert for reconstruction, but a total loser on this field. Wilson was a man, who gave good advice how to build save pools and he wanted to help victims. That is good, but here he did a terribble mistake that did not help anyone.
I myself am a universal-genius on every field where logic is relevant, but on the other side I am a poor guy with no money, helping the elite of the world to get their brains in order an their common sense back.
No one pays me for my work here  but look what a european professor in the science of Hydromechanic answered me in this case, before I calculated it myself:

Von: Prof. Dr.-Ing. ….F. …….
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2020 18:47
An: ‘Klaus Fejsa’;  …….
Cc:  ….

Betreff: AW: wie mit Dr. ……. telefonisch besprochen

……..  A detailed statement about the flow conditions in swimming pools is  without knowledge of the individual conditions (pool geometry and dimensions, number of inlets and inlet cross sections, number of simmers / suction devices and their cross sections, pipe system and pipe cross sections, pump outputs, pump control, etc.) also for a specialist not possible. Generalized statements in particular will always remain purely speculative and are therefore not possible for us in this complex case.
If you would like an expert opinion on the flow conditions in pools for an individual case or for several cases, we will be happy to provide you with information on the information and data required as the basis for the investigations, as well as the expected costs. Such investigations are very complex and should be planned and carried out very carefully, especially against the very serious background of the question and the possibly resulting consequences, in order to ultimately obtain well-founded and reliable statements. I think you see it the same way.  ……
 
This it not OK, the space, the scope her is so very very big, that there is no need for such sort of complitation. You dont have to fly to spain, measure every detail and in the end get a result, that a child can swimm 1526 times faster than the ridiculous water current in this case. Or only 895 times?
This does not matter, here its a question about scales, about magnitudes and not about peanuts, so I wrote back:
 

Dear Prof. Dr.-Ing F….,

Thank you for the answer, I would like to answer with an example:

If a rocket-experienced alien from the science-fiction world were to look at the earth with the telescope and see the car traffic there and that it was smoking behind, he would surely think that the physical recoil principle also provides the drive here like a rocket.

But no, wrongly thought, space alien, although the recoil from the exhaust has a small impact on the drive of the car in the direction of travel, but this is COMPLETELY negligible compared to the torque that the engine brings to the road via gears and tires .

Since 2019, all the media and the public have been in a similar mental derangement about this case, except me. And as long as the truth is being obscured, prevention and future security suffer in addition to the enlightenment, this is a continuing danger. DANGER TO LIFE, possibly even from this same pool but surely from similar ones.

In this situation, your answer is only  complicating the subject into an ivory tower of alleged scientific seriosity, instead of simply going into the magnitudes and telling clearly and understandably in a single sentence , namely:

Although the recoil from the exhaust has a small impact on the drive of the car in the direction of travel, this is VÖLLIG negligible compared to the torque that the engine brings to the road via gears and tires.

With what you pretend to be serious, you are doing nobody a favor, nobody, not even yourself or “science”. This is not about numbers behind the decimal point, but about scales,  orders of magnitude that have in the case of the pool drama so far been so brutally misunderstood as by the space alien. And it’s about the resulting danger, while here you have to measure yourself and calculate where the result is clear from the outset, as in this example of the alien, the exhaust and the movement of a car.

 
I am right, this is the truth and the truth will reign the world.
I would be a nobody if the world would recognize the truth with common sense and then accept that the truth shall reign the world.
But as long as the whole world is fighting agaists the truth here, you yourself, you all are doing nothing else than making me king and ruler of the world. Because the day will come that truth will reign the earth, but the whole world is still not on my side.
Or? So speak out loud NOW !!!
And here something more to the thema of electric current in the water.
The current can come through the pipes from the pump in the house and then build an electrical field between the bottom drain and the skimmer area, when the water in the skimmers are high enough. Or the electrical field goes from the bottom drain to the metall  railing or something else. But it can come through the pipes from a defect pump installation relatively far away.

Very important this video

Watch all the example videos for electrical current in the water in my  older article below

 
 
 
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01.01.2020 - Spain, pool, 3 drowned: Facts about "pool drain accidents" and "pool electric accidents"

Planet earth,  01.01.2020

1. Search everywhere, where on earth ever happened for technical reasons a pool accident with more than one dead person without it having anything to do with electricity in the water ?

 

2. There are reports about the spanish pool-drama worldwide but no expert and no media around the world in spanish, english or german language etc., in many countries on different continents like America, Europe, Australia etc., no one except me, talks about electric shock even after one week.

First my articel in german on the 26.12.2019

Then the second articel from the 28.12.2019, arguments sent to Media in the USA,  England, Germany, Switzerland, and Austria.


3. “Pool-drain” discussions when there are THREE death (two tall grown men) are as stupid as trying to oil the earth axis and show worldwide stupidity AND that criminal investigations are necessary, because:

4. The published statements of the experts about “pool-drain themes” are under these circumstances homocidal incompetent or shall intentionally distract from the probability of an electric shock.


 
On 24.12.2019 there was a deadly accident in a spanish hotel pool, killing  a 9 years old girl, her father and her brother. The mother reported, that all three could swim.The two men were 1,9 m tall and even could stand on tiptoe in the 2 m deep water.
Because  the drowning of the three was very mysterious and without an obvious explanation, since then untill today, many media in Spain, USA, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and many other countries around  the world are reporting globally the nonsense of a “pool drain accident”.
But never ever a pool drain accident killed more than one person, normaly little children, like it is explained in the following video.
Its the same like if you put a vacuum cleaner to your skin, it sucks the skin and fixes ONE  body under water.
When a child is diving directly down to the pooldrain, the pooldrain can suck the body and keeps it down, later you see the marks of the pooldrain on the body.
But this can only happen to one single person at a time. Not to two persons or even three.

There is only one thing that often killed more than one at  a time in a pool and this is current in the water, an electric stroke.

The mother of the family, Olubunmi Diya, did not talk about a “pooldrain” she only said

“I believe something was wrong with the pool, that must have made swimming difficult for them at that point in time.

Press Statement by Pastor (Mrs) Olubunmi Diya on the sequence of events and circumstances leading to the tragic deaths...

Gepostet von Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Central Office, UK am Freitag, 27. Dezember 2019

 

The only way one media worldwide besides me talked about “current” was not in a electric meaning but as nonsens

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/12/30/inenglish/1577696245_850864.html

The police version of events and that of the two women who survived the incident, the only witnesses, are contradictory. Firstly, there are disagreements about whether or not the victims – a man and two of his children – knew how to swim. Secondly, whether the pool’s filter system could have created a current that dragged the bathers into the deep end.

All that can be found on earth about this theme is nonsense about  “pool-drain”, except my articles about electric current

Here my articles about electric current

 

And here all the rest on earth, ALL NONSENSE

 

A pool drain problem can not influence more than one person at a time.

But an electric problem can kill a whole group at a time.

 

 

=> Just understand: If a group ist dead: First you have to think to a electric  reason

 

Carmen Johnson and other cases even in open water

BUT LOOK HOW SIMILAR TO THE SPANISH CASE THE HELPERS ARE REPORTING HERE, HOW THEY WHERE INFLUECED BY THE CURRENT.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY A INDIVIDUAL CAN STAND AND HOW THE EXACT SITUATION IS, WETHER A HELPER DIES TOO OR NOT !!!

https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/2017/04/what_is_electric_shock_drownin.html

Soon the father heard the girls cry for help and jumped in the lake hoping to save them. His son Zach also jumped in to help but they, too, were being shocked by an electric current that was transferring into the water through the metal ladder.

Jimmy Johnson, who works in electronic repairs, realized they were being shocked and managed to shout for his wife to cut the power to the dock. But, Carmen Johnson didn’t survive.

“If my husband hadn’t went into the water, we wouldn’t have known what was going on,” Casey Johnson said. Because electric shock drowning typically doesn’t leave visible proof on victims’ bodies, it’s unlikely anyone would have known about the electrocution if others hadn’t been in the water and felt the shock. The electrocution can paralyze swimmers, making it difficult for them to get out of the water.

 

And now look, how catastrophic stupid logic in spain 2019 and all around the world until now:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/world/europe/spain-pool-drownings.html

Jorge Martín, a spokesman for the civil guard in Spain, said by telephone on Friday that the water was about six and a half feet deep at the pool’s deepest point.

An initial report that a resort employee who entered the pool during the episode had also struggled to get out suggested that there might have been a problem with the pool’s filtration or drainage systems, Mr. Martín said.

 

=> The Guardia Civil showed itself incompetent or criminal

The electric danger must be familiar not even to experts, but to EVERYONE even to journalists and whole public
Its the same deadly danger in pools or in marinas, and there is even a hole organisation to warn about the danger of current in the water
https://www.electricshockdrowning.org
NEVER swim in or near marinas, docks or boatyards.
You not going to find EVER a technical water accident with more than one death or injured unless it was elektricity. But for the stupid media, it is not even an opportunity worth talking about today.

And remember:

The source of the  current in the water does not need to be very near to the spot of the accident and it must not be something obvious like a cable hanging in the pool, the electricity that kills in the pool, could have come from somewhere in the hotel building, from a pump in a technical area or a current conducting connection like water in a pipe etc..  May be only at times when a filter or a pump is clogged or someone was working inside the house.

Just examine all exactly, also a temporary problem and the case, that may be criminals try to hide the truth today !!!

 

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